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Since people are upset....
#1
Apparently some former UTB'ers are upset for me being less than happy with the Priv. So allow me to explain myself.

The Priv is an amazing phone. The hardware is amazing. Put it next to other android flagship phones and it will make them look like prepaid cheap phones. I know because I do this with people quite often. Lol. It's a phone you want people to look at. It's nice to see apps advertised and know that you can just grab it with no problem.

It still hasn't been rooted, which means that with BlackBerry's first try, they've done something no other android OEM has been able to do.

But here's the thing. Android is *****.

If someone is coming from Android, I can't imagine them being anything but impressed. The Android experience is better than any other android experience that I've.... experienced. Lol. But it's still an android experience.

Coming from BB10, I've got the expectation now that when I get a new phone, I can sign in to my accounts and immediately go to work. I have a few apps I use, but I really don't even need them to function throughout the day because of what's baked in to BB10.

It has not been like that with the Priv. And I have heard that I didn't provide examples, so here goes.

I don't read everything as it comes in. Yet notifications yell at me all day long if I don't. The point of notification previews is to preview so you can respond later. So stop bugging me.

It seems every time I need to do something, I need an app, and that's the biggest issue.

-edit photos like I can on BlackBerry. Need an app. (there is a photo editor, but not as user friendly as BlackBerry 10)

-edit videos, need an app.

-file manager, nuff said.

-saving things from the web. Inconsistent and where the ***** does it go???

These are basic things I do all the time, and here is where the fiddling comes in. The apps. There's tons. So many apps. So few good ones.

Photo editor. I'm sure I'm close to triple digits on the amount of photo editor apps I've tried. Still haven't found one I've liked. Good luck finding one that let's you use your whole screen because of ad.

Video editor: ridiculous. Good luck with this. And why is it I get full screen ads every time I try and save something. I've tried fewer of these than photo editors, and have given up and just use the native editor in my Passport.

File manager: I now have two on my phone. Hate them both. But I need both of them just to have the abilities I do on BB10. Surely I'll find something decent and simple someday. Everyone says ES? It's one of my two. And it sucks.

My issue with Android is I need apps now. I didn't on BB10. And the apps are plentiful... and suck. And this has nothing to do with BlackBerry. This is Google, Android, and the app store. BlackBerry is giving people what they wanted, and have done a better job than the other android makers. It's not their fault the OS sucks.

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Can't really help much with the other issues you're having, but a good File manager that I've found (available on Android *and* BB10) - Ghost Commander. It allows access to any folder on your device, and I often find myself using it to access the Android settings on my Passport, as well as for Web design - it includes an FTP client for uploading webpages.
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I use ES on my work tablet. And you're right, it doesn't come close to comparing with BlackBerry. I hope BlackBerry can continue to improve on the Android experience as they refine and build on their flagship efforts. If anyone can, it's BlackBerry.

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I think the issue really comes down to personal choice. If BlackBerry's plan is to use revenue from Priv sales to keep BB10 alive then I fully support the Priv and would not bash it as that may have a negative impact on sales. I prefer BB10 but my old eyes need lots of screen so I'll try the Priv and the Leap and decide which meets my needs.
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(25-01-2016, 04:26 AM)razrrob Wrote: I think the issue really comes down to personal choice. If BlackBerry's plan is to use revenue from Priv sales to keep BB10 alive then I fully support the Priv and would not bash it as that may have a negative impact on sales. I prefer BB10 but my old eyes need lots of screen so I'll try the Priv and the Leap and decide which meets my needs.

Funny you should say that...I bought a Priv, I really wanted to like it, especially because of the Camera and some of the other perks....but alas, after a very short time I sent it back and bought a leap (I already have a classic) and I'm very happy I made that choice. Android sucks right from the start because it is so godawful ugly you want to stomp it to put it out of its misery before you even find how messed it is to actually try and work with.

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(25-01-2016, 04:26 AM)razrrob Wrote: I think the issue really comes down to personal choice. If BlackBerry's plan is to use revenue from Priv sales to keep BB10 alive then I fully support the Priv and would not bash it as that may have a negative impact on sales. I prefer BB10 but my old eyes need lots of screen so I'll try the Priv and the Leap and decide which meets my needs.

I'm not bashing it at all. I believe it's the best version of Android out there. Certainly the best I've seen or used. And. No doubt the safest. But it doesn't even compare with BB10.

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Most everything you said is valid sure. Notifications however don't just keep popping up unless you keep getting new messages just as any OS. Not sure what you mean by that.
As for file manager, sure you have to download one but I actually have one the is just as user friendly and actually more fully featured then I had on BB10. Example, looking at photos in file manager allows me to swipe and continue looking at the next photos on my sd card. Don't have to back out and find another one. Stuff saved from the Internet can be found easily by opening this file manager.

As for photo editing, don't do that much so I'm okay with downloading an app. As per before, I spent hours on end side loading, patching and so on to get things to work that I need for my job and even with that they worked about 50% capability leaving me running for WiFi in airports and turning lap top on to get things done. Don't have to do that now so in a sense I've become more productive.

Reality is I suppose it's a use case scenario. But lots of retooling required out of the box is not completely accurate.
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First of all I didn't bother reading the OP as it has nothing to do with the issues "former Utb members" have raised (interesting choice of words btw). I think I speak for all of us when I say the phone you use is of no concern to me. The only issue I see, is that 5/6 posters here automatically attack the Priv when mentioned.

I saw someone asking thoughts on the priv to owners and responses were all one sentence saying it was bad without any explanation, any pros to the device, or even an attempt to appear unbiased. Reminds me of a certain orange site. Love the phone, or hate it, but I was under the impression this was a BlackBerry fan site. Any issues I've ever had with BlackBerry, i've raised in private as I know one fit I throw could impact someone's view on the devices if they have no prior knowledge of them.
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(25-01-2016, 05:50 AM)ray689 Wrote: Lol assuming you got screen shots as usual.
Most everything you said is valid sure. Notifications however don't just keep popping up unless you keep getting new messages. Not sure what you mean by that.
As for file manager, sure you have to download one but I actually have one the is just as user friendly and actually more fully featured then I had on BB10. Example, looking at photos in file manager allows me to swipe and continue looking at the next photos on my sd card. Don't have to back out and find another one. Stuff saved from the Internet can be found easily by opening this file manager.

As for photo editing, don't do that much so I'm okay with downloading an app. As per before, I spent hours on end side loading, patching and so on to get things to work that I need for my job and even with that they worked about 50% capability leaving me running for WiFi in airports and turning lap top on to get things done. Don't have to do that now so in a sense I've become more productive.

Reality is I suppose it's a use case scenario. But lots of retooling required out of the box is not completely accurate.

Which file manager? I've gone batty trying them out and just don't want to test anymore. I'll try and get video later with the notifications. Unless I go and open it, they just keep coming. Even if I click the 'x'. I have to leave my Priv on silent because it just dings all day.

Let me put it this way,

Android users: get a Priv. You'll love it.

BB10 users: if you feel like your missing out on apps or customization, get a Priv.

If you need apps that don't work well on BB10, get a Priv.

If you're a user with a second line and want to play with BlackBerry's newest and support the company? Get a Priv.

If you're a BB10 user who feels like they have everything they need, isn't missing out on certain apps, loves the workflow, gestures and efficiency? Get an SE. It's beautiful. Or a regular Passport. Or Classic. Or Leap. Because if you're in this category, what you give up isn't worth what you gain.

iOS users: stop being stupid.

I've got a Classic shipping to me now. :)

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I would like to know what is needed for work that can't be found on BlackBerry 10

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